The SSH keystroke lag makes it un-enjoyable especially that you need to type to move around the interface. Otherwise, I like the concept. I'd rather have a terminal feed of random shit that I can filter than having to navigate around web pages.
For my side project (pricetracker.wtf) i was hoping to build a terminal app that you can connect with telnet or ssh - and do navigate the app through a super simplified but interactive ux...
Found a few libraries that seems to help with this...
This is AWESOME. Love the idea of totally navigating around the ad-noise that the modern html/css/js web has become. This is how I first experienced the internet and I still maintain that it is one of the sanest ways to do so.
I like the idea of having different options for content creation, but I don't understand why "micro-blogging" is still a thing. It originated in message length limitations of texting back when texting was a new thing. Why inject an outdated constraint into a new tool?
Because these days morons make a 10 minute video to explain something that could probably fit into 180 chars. Everyone is all "ME ME ME! LOOK AT ME!" and 180 chars doesn't really let you make it all about yourself. So it's enjoyable to read. It's the same reason Twitter started to suck a big one once threads and unrolling and all that bollox became common place.
Can verify, I'm somewhere on the hypergraphic spectrum and one of the reasons I like computers in general and LLMs in particular is that they're literally forced to read what I write.
Kinda. The large context windows that recent LLMs have tends to imply that their attention to your input is selective. They're just humoring you really.
IMO it makes for better content. I'm not logging in to a microblogging app so I can read thoughtful, longform content, actually it's exactly the opposite.
By enforcing a character limit you only allow a certain type of post to be made
> By enforcing a character limit you only allow a certain type of post to be made
Yes, the one where all nuance and detail is lost after being trimmed to death so it can exist under the arbitrary limit and is much easier to misunderstand because the author couldn't put all of their thoughts in writing.
I think that the breakdown of public discourse in the US in the last 15ish years is directly attributable to Twitter. When the main mode of engagement with others in politics is to drop 140-char hot takes, it shouldn't be surprising people hate each other. The world would genuinely be a much better place, in my opinion, if Twitter or its like had never existed.
And there is a mutually understood degree of nuance. There is no space to consider every route of uncertainty or qualify every statement. You can say "the Earth is round" instead of "most of us agree that the Earth very very likely exists and is very likely to be round".
Sorry but this even sounds wrong. You can write an eternal masterpiece in any form. Short story, a poem, a novel, an anecdote even.
In fact shorter form is more challenging. You have less room for a mistake. And lets be honest: most people are terrible writers|composers|painters etc.
This is one of the reasons you see threads and services that can present you threads in a more convenient form.
Actually it's "his". Also Redditors at the time rated him merely as "one among many talented playwrights and poets". It wasn't until the 17th century that he's been been considered _the_ supreme playwright.
... is this^^ the type of content you want on Itter? Because that's what you get from this crowd.
People today don't read, they skim. If the text is too long, they won't even do that. Nevertheless, I'm surprised text hasn't completely died in favor of TikTok style videos, butaybe we are still on our way to that.
Not quite, I think. Bite sized videos provide the illusion of promise that one won't miss any information, whereas I would think that promise isn't there when skimming over text.
you can get really good at skimming massive amounts of text such that you don’t miss anything, or at least feel like you didn’t miss anything, but most UI on bite size video platforms simply can’t provide that kind of experience very well.
The medium is the message. Presumably the creators felt that it is such a fundamental part of the medium they want to recreate that they keep the constraint.
It didn't get much attention when I posted it earlier this week, but I made an SSH movie player:
ssh ansi.rya.nc
(currently shows Sneakers, complete with subtitles)
Usually I get really annoyed with people who hijack a thread to post their own thing, but ok, yea, this is pretty amazing. The quality is superb.
I do also love itter.sh
I was about to say 'please do not hijack the thread' but read your comment and ssh'ed into it. This is amazing.
Agree. His Show HN post deserves the upvotes
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43916333
HOLY FUCK, WOW. Can we have a call?
Just mplayer -vo caca myvideo.mp4
It's _way_ higher quality than that.
drop me an email
It looks completely garbled on my end
here's a screenshot with a terminal that works with it https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attach...
It needs a terminal with 24 bit color support, and at least 80x24. In particular, gnu screen doesn't work.
The SSH keystroke lag makes it un-enjoyable especially that you need to type to move around the interface. Otherwise, I like the concept. I'd rather have a terminal feed of random shit that I can filter than having to navigate around web pages.
gotcha!
There's also https://pico.sh/
I like the self depreciation here: > itter.sh is built with TONS of bugs on:
it's true, unfortunately...
This is very cool. Feels a lot like old school internet. A refreshing experience compared to most social media.
The most worrying thing about isolated places like this :
This is so good. I love the name, logo, and bugs section.
> exec request failed on channel 1
Well, guess it's time to scale
yeah, I screwed this up in all kinds of ways
thx for the love tho <3
Its neat but isn't it basically just `wall`?
This is timely.
For my side project (pricetracker.wtf) i was hoping to build a terminal app that you can connect with telnet or ssh - and do navigate the app through a super simplified but interactive ux...
Found a few libraries that seems to help with this...
This is AWESOME. Love the idea of totally navigating around the ad-noise that the modern html/css/js web has become. This is how I first experienced the internet and I still maintain that it is one of the sanest ways to do so.
How is adoption so far?
> How is adoption so far?
300-ish sign-ups, 12k posts
https://github.com/bbj-dev/bbj comes to mind as well.
Curious how long it took to get it? Fun experiment. Missing readline support though :)
I was at first thinking I could use it from my commandline directly..
Aw, it doesn't work :(
> Error: User not found for posting eet.
I bet you tried to register a short user name.
Wow. Reminds of the old BBS era.
what am i doing wrong??
Permission denied (publickey).
Presuming that you're on Windows, you might need to configure your ssh keys first.
https://4sysops.com/archives/powershell-remoting-with-ssh-pu...
Holy moly, wow. What would be the best way to turn this into a TL;DR man for Windows users?
Did you make sure to register first?
I like the idea of having different options for content creation, but I don't understand why "micro-blogging" is still a thing. It originated in message length limitations of texting back when texting was a new thing. Why inject an outdated constraint into a new tool?
It's the same reason I still like sports: humans operating within constraints produce interesting outcomes.
It's why film photography is still popular. The constraints create unique ideas.
Agreed! I have enjoyed how the constraints will prod me to refine and distill an initial thought into more crisp phrasing.
Because these days morons make a 10 minute video to explain something that could probably fit into 180 chars. Everyone is all "ME ME ME! LOOK AT ME!" and 180 chars doesn't really let you make it all about yourself. So it's enjoyable to read. It's the same reason Twitter started to suck a big one once threads and unrolling and all that bollox became common place.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=1eTSL2kopP4&si=6g5MeMOmKoM...
Well I dreamed there was an island, that rose up from the sea.
And everyone on the island was somebody from T.V.
And there was a beautiful view, but nobody could see
'Cuz everybody on the island was screaming,
"Look at me! Look at me! Look at me! Look at me! Look at me!"
Because ain't nobody gonna read a 20000 word manifest
Can verify, I'm somewhere on the hypergraphic spectrum and one of the reasons I like computers in general and LLMs in particular is that they're literally forced to read what I write.
Kinda. The large context windows that recent LLMs have tends to imply that their attention to your input is selective. They're just humoring you really.
Yep. You can link to manifest in your tweet.
The same reason why people posting stories instead of actual posts. Or you really don’t want to write masterpiece everyday.
You can write a 180 characters post\tweet\toot even when there is virtually no limitation.
I think this is what was asked by a parent commenter: why enforce any limit (except for a sane ones) at all?
IMO it makes for better content. I'm not logging in to a microblogging app so I can read thoughtful, longform content, actually it's exactly the opposite.
By enforcing a character limit you only allow a certain type of post to be made
> By enforcing a character limit you only allow a certain type of post to be made
Yes, the one where all nuance and detail is lost after being trimmed to death so it can exist under the arbitrary limit and is much easier to misunderstand because the author couldn't put all of their thoughts in writing.
It does help with engagement though.
I think that the breakdown of public discourse in the US in the last 15ish years is directly attributable to Twitter. When the main mode of engagement with others in politics is to drop 140-char hot takes, it shouldn't be surprising people hate each other. The world would genuinely be a much better place, in my opinion, if Twitter or its like had never existed.
I prefer it because it forces distillation to core ideas, consumable quickly. Busy people have too little time to read too much verbiage.
And there is a mutually understood degree of nuance. There is no space to consider every route of uncertainty or qualify every statement. You can say "the Earth is round" instead of "most of us agree that the Earth very very likely exists and is very likely to be round".
On a side note: a platform can (potentially) provide a filter that will show user only posts shorter than length L1. Or longer than L1.
>IMO it makes for better content.
Sorry but this even sounds wrong. You can write an eternal masterpiece in any form. Short story, a poem, a novel, an anecdote even.
In fact shorter form is more challenging. You have less room for a mistake. And lets be honest: most people are terrible writers|composers|painters etc.
This is one of the reasons you see threads and services that can present you threads in a more convenient form.
> why enforce any limit (except for a sane ones) at all
Some say Shakespeare was his (their?) best when he was limited to the fixed form of the sonnet.
Actually it's "his". Also Redditors at the time rated him merely as "one among many talented playwrights and poets". It wasn't until the 17th century that he's been been considered _the_ supreme playwright.
... is this^^ the type of content you want on Itter? Because that's what you get from this crowd.
Not sure, but stories, threads, etc seem to be a rather top down/dark pattern thats shoved down our throats one doom scroll at a time
People today don't read, they skim. If the text is too long, they won't even do that. Nevertheless, I'm surprised text hasn't completely died in favor of TikTok style videos, butaybe we are still on our way to that.
> I'm surprised text hasn't completely died in favor of TikTok style videos
You gave the answer yourself - TikTok style videos, short as they are, aren't as easy to skim through as microblogging sites.
Not quite, I think. Bite sized videos provide the illusion of promise that one won't miss any information, whereas I would think that promise isn't there when skimming over text.
you can get really good at skimming massive amounts of text such that you don’t miss anything, or at least feel like you didn’t miss anything, but most UI on bite size video platforms simply can’t provide that kind of experience very well.
The medium is the message. Presumably the creators felt that it is such a fundamental part of the medium they want to recreate that they keep the constraint.
<3
Something like 2-5 rows at some reasonable width (40? 80?) could be nice for a sort of live feed to put over to the side in a terminal maybe.
that's a really cool thought, thank you!
Do you know why Formula 1 is called Formula 1? The formula refers to a specific set of constraints to which all of the participants must adhere.
The cars could be totally different; more tech, features, etc. The whole sport and culture is defined around the system of shared constraints.
For the same reason that some of the things I say to people are single sentences while others are multiple full paragraphs.
sounds cool